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PostSubject: HID Lighting.   Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:35 am


How does HID Lighting work?

Will HID lighting throw out a brighter and longer beam?

How many amps or watts does it use when compared to a standard 85watt or 100watt spot light?


I am looking At PIAA, KC, LightForce. To go on the roof rack, im going to treat myself for xmas clapping

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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:37 pm

Very simply, basically it is a discharge system which utilises a transformer system to increase the 12 volt up to a voltage of around 400-600 volts on most systems, and uses this ballast to light a bulb which contains a gas, basically its similar to a flourescent tube and starter system. HiD systems typically use 40% less energy for a comparable light output than a halogen or other incandescent lamp, this ensures you get the same light output for less power consumption, and they are available in a variety of ratings for their output balance of light, therefore they are less yellow and more blue as they can match daylight very closely, and the human eye responds better to blue light than it does to yellow light.

Are they legal on a vehicle? no is the short answer if you intend to use them for headlights as they are not type approved or E marked for aftermarket fitting, for off road spot lights or working lights, fine.

Some dodgy sellers are working a subtle con on suspecting buyers, some are now aware of the E marking regulations and ask retailers if they are E marked and the dodgy dealers have purchased a stamp and are marking them with the regulation E mark to dupe these unsuspecting buyers.
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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:22 am

Thanks for that, explains alot.

There two I have narrowed it down to are:

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/item/2165854/lightforce-170-striker-hid-driving-lights

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http://www.outbackautomotive.co.uk/hid-6-inch-round-long-range/kc-661-6-inch-long-range-hid-black-steel-system-489675-130276-196230.php

The latter I can get alot cheaper due to Trade. But the only difference that I can see is that the LightForce are 35watt hid, and the KC's are 50watt hid. Choices, choices........

Note: The Kc's are more expensive but they have a 23 year warranty on all everything, where the Lightforce have none....

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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:26 am

I'm sure you'll be aware, but just in case ...

If the spots overhang the windscreen, you'll need to place a deflector plate between the spots and screen, otherwise it can be blinding in the cab as light deflects off the bonnet and dashboard.

Basically, the old type of exterior sun visor you used to get on the Vauxhall Velox and the like would be perfect for the job. Old Series Land Rovers used to have them too.



You can still get them for Yank Tanks apparently:- http://stores.ebay.co.uk/TRUCKMANPARTSINC/_i.html?_nkw=steel+sun+visor

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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:04 am


I have had lights on the top of my vehicle before and I cant recall a glare problem on the bonnet. It was on a pickup, and they were Piaa lights.

Ta tho, Ill look to maybe mount the lights 1 foot back from the roof edge, just incase.

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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:53 am

Tom Mc wrote:
I'm sure you'll be aware, but just in case ...

If the spots overhang the windscreen, you'll need to place a deflector plate between the spots and screen, otherwise it can be blinding in the cab as light deflects off the bonnet and dashboard.

Basically, the old type of exterior sun visor you used to get on the Vauxhall Velox and the like would be perfect for the job. Old Series Land Rovers used to have them too.



You can still get them for Yank Tanks apparently:- http://stores.ebay.co.uk/TRUCKMANPARTSINC/_i.html?_nkw=steel+sun+visor

That picture brings back memories, used to own one of them, had for 18 months, add a fight with a cortina which came of worse, but did not have enoght money to repair it, so sold for £150 + Ford prefect. those were the days. clinking teacups

ps a fiend had the two nukels or bumbs on front bumber as nuckel dusters, not one to mess with. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:39 am

'ere, that was lucky. Just Googled 'Roamingman' and found an early photo of you before you bought the Velox ...



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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:15 am

It was just after that photo, i made rubber tyrs for it. Laughing Laughing clapping clapping
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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:43 am

DAM YOU, Hijacking my thread! computer-22 computer-22

Im so confused.......... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:58 am


Prices are..............high..........

Out of interest has anyone used Piaa Ion Crystal or Lightforce Yellow filters?

Apart from the different colour or lens or bulb what benefit does a yellow light have over a white light?


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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:15 am

Its better in foggy conditions as it reduces the reflected glare back at the driver, but ideally the lights need to be mounted low down and not high up to be effective.
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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:09 am

Terracan Jas wrote:
DAM YOU, Hijacking my thread! computer-22 computer-22

Im so confused.......... Laughing


Embarassed so sory for that, lol!
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PostSubject: Re: HID Lighting.   Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:16 am

Ohhhhhhhhhhh the confusion. angry

I think I got it all sorted out now tho. thumbsup

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