this is an old pic of my truck when I got him before its mods for overland use

no I am just saying it can be improved upon for your personal use for some people standard is just fine for others they may want harder suspension for towing or softer for off-road or lowered for fast road the suspension just like tyre choice is personal to the individual that uses it

Driver ability plays alot in it.

Using my truck again for example. Using the vehicle for Salisbury plain, touring, camping and some overland travel its fine but taking it on a pay and play site, winch challenge or timed dakar event its not going to do well. But I'm sure that if a die hard off road driver was at the wheel it would be more capable. Ill admit I'm not that experienced.
For my uses its fine, in 3 years I've got it stuck once and that was on grass in a field.

If you are a competent driver with much experiance you will undoubtedly go further off road and have more confidence in a standard vehicle than a slightly modifyed one than other people.

Or at least me thinks so.

TJ

Jas
I agree with all you say. At my first evening at the club I now go to, they were all talking about the days befor trial. How is this better, that better. Until I said those two words
DRIVER ABILITY....

No matter what you do to your truck you still have the same GVW and roof load limits as set by the manufacturer.

When overlanding the biggest problem that any driver or user faces is weight. I know what my Defender 110 weighs and it's frightening. Now some so called third world countries have twigged the weight issue. Not only for the vehicle but caravans and trailers. Yep, STOP please and onto the weighbridge.....
I don't pay and play, I do go onto the rough when marshalling in trials etc.



I don't see any probles here with articulation. Well over GVW at 3.5 TONNE



You can see the roads in this shot...

That is some weight!

That's useful to know. And I would have thought that land rovers would have been reasonably light!

NOTE: See section in Main Chat, Vehicle weights, sound like you could give some good pointer for novices etc.

Jas

I totally agree with you both the driver is a huge factor in the vehicles ability the suspension also plays a huge part in the vehicle ability on and off road my truck is far better on the overland springs than it ever was on the old standard ones as it sits square and doesn't sag at the rear when loaded up with all the kit and the road holding has increased as it doesn't wallow about quiet as much I also fitted performance brakes to help it stop when loaded its amazing how many people forget to look at the breaks when carrying heavy loads

yes an off road truck would use softer springs my rear springs wouldn't look out of place on the rear of a 130 as for my weight loaded I have no idea never had it weighed but its quit a bit I wouldn't want it to run over my foot

Ref: TF210
Product Description:
TF210 Heavy load suspension kit includes a pair of TF120 and TF121 shocks and a pair of TF015 and TF027V coil springs.

This kit should be used on vehicles with around 100kg of additional equipment or load on the front and approx 300kg on the rear and will give around 2" (50mm) of lift.

this is the kit on my truck I know they wont fit a 130 but they don't need to they need to fit my disco and the do lol

going to Iceland via Denmark on the smyril line ferry that's the only way to get their at the moment they used to run from Scotland and Shetland but unfortunately they stopped that service a few years ago but i am still in the planning stages so hopefully they will reintroduce it but I doubt it