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gchinsr Rookie


Posts: 12 Join date: 2011-03-29 Location: Los Angeles CA, USA
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:03 pm | |
| Both the MOD, and Scepter can adjust the water flow with their vent caps, for smooth water streams. The Scepter is great, in that you can easily drop a electric pump into it. For ease of cleaning, the Scepter wins hands down, with it's extra large opening. I have a Hozelock Porta Shower,and will attempt to adapt the pump, and pick up tube, into the Scepter, to keep all the containers the same size. I think at the hardware store, I should be to able to create the adapter from various fittings, and with an extension for the water pick up, to have pressurized water at hand . After looking at heat exchangers, there are way too many connections that may potentially leak, for my liking. It is easy enough to heat some water after cooking to add into the jerry for a warm shower, instead of starting the vehicle every time, to have warm water. I just don't want, or need the complexity, accompanying weight gain, and potential system failure, when a simple solution will work fine. But that's just me. |
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kevinf Gate Opener

Posts: 39 Join date: 2011-02-25 Age: 48 Location: sheffield
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:22 pm | |
| any body got any good reconmendations where i can buy a scepter water jerry can from,preferable a new or aleast un-issued one, not necessary taking about the cheapest. It seems the only official stockist for europe is in ireland???
cheers kevin |
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shidanta Rookie

Posts: 2 Join date: 2011-07-08
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:05 am | |
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Jas Moderator


Posts: 1269 Join date: 2010-12-29 Age: 24 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:05 pm | |
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Nice link! they are still available. I am tempted to buy one and Install it in my spare tyre holder in-between the chassis, as the tyre is now too big to fit. Ill add a pump, to allow both quick filling and easy use of the water. And Ill get a 6mm aluminium box made up to protect it when the going gets rough.
TJ
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wideformat4x4 Just fitted a Snorkel


Posts: 412 Join date: 2011-01-19 Age: 54 Location: Marcham, Oxfordshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:39 am | |
| I think the large fitted tank's are ok for motorhomes and caravans but for smaller vehicles I would always use 3 or 4 smaller type containers holding no more that 10 or 20 litres and 1 or 1.5 litre bottles as they cam be spread around the vehicle to help with weight distribution.
Bearing in mind a litre of water weighs 1 kilo a large tank holding over 50 kilo's is a large chunk of weight to concentrate in 1 spot. The 1 or 1.5 litre bottles are always good for a drink on the move and will wedge in the door pocket of most vehicles.
On the filling side I have a lifesaver filtered pump which is a bit of a pain to use but you can extract and purify water from streams etc although it takes an age to fill a 1 litre bottle but as I don't venture of piste much bottled water is available at most garages supermarkets etc and I top up when buying fuel or food etc. For showers I have 2 hi-gear black bag type showers which I leave on the roof during the day and shower early evening if I'm not on a campsite.
Works for me and there's not much that can go wrong with plastic bottles and bags except punctures I suppose. _________________ I would rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy  Land Rover Discovery 2 for overland treks Frontera LWB for mud |
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Jas Moderator


Posts: 1269 Join date: 2010-12-29 Age: 24 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:27 pm | |
| | wideformat4x4 wrote: | I think the large fitted tank's are ok for motorhomes and caravans but for smaller vehicles I would always use 3 or 4 smaller type containers holding no more that 10 or 20 litres and 1 or 1.5 litre bottles as they cam be spread around the vehicle to help with weight distribution.
Bearing in mind a litre of water weighs 1 kilo a large tank holding over 50 kilo's is a large chunk of weight to concentrate in 1 spot. The 1 or 1.5 litre bottles are always good for a drink on the move and will wedge in the door pocket of most vehicles.
On the filling side I have a lifesaver filtered pump which is a bit of a pain to use but you can extract and purify water from streams etc although it takes an age to fill a 1 litre bottle but as I don't venture of piste much bottled water is available at most garages supermarkets etc and I top up when buying fuel or food etc. For showers I have 2 hi-gear black bag type showers which I leave on the roof during the day and shower early evening if I'm not on a campsite.
Works for me and there's not much that can go wrong with plastic bottles and bags except punctures I suppose. |
Im hearing ya. The weight would be an issue, I wouldn't have to fill it all up but then even 30L is alot. I like the Idea of your shower, cheap and effective. More thinking to do....
TJ _________________ Looking for a new Vehicle
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GirlChild Just got MT's


Posts: 283 Join date: 2012-03-07 Location: Adventuring in Africa
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:09 pm | |
| Hiya! We have opted for a tall thin water tank that fits along the load guard. I believe it holds 50L.  It is on order at the moment, and we hope to receive it by Easter. As for filling it, our plan is to use a length of hose into the top (see the black cap), with a funnel at the tap end to 'catch' the water. This should remove the problem of an exact fit for the hose to the tap. From previous experience, we have found having a 10l plastic container very useful at the kitchen end of the vehicle (ie. the back). Weight wise, easy for even little 'ol me to handle, and can also be used to fill the big tank if we can't get the vehicle close to the tap. We'll let you know how this pans out! rgds African GirlChild _________________ African GirlChildWebsite: www.kapp2cape.netBlog: www.kapp2cape-blog.netOverland from Nordkapp to Cape AgulhasThe adventure begins in October 2012!Departure: Adventure Overland Show, 7th October 2012 |
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chally2 Just got M&S Tyres


Posts: 141 Join date: 2011-02-01 Age: 32 Location: berkshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:37 pm | |
| I also like the idea of a flat one laying flat in the load bay |
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Tom Mc Founder


Posts: 2372 Join date: 2010-12-09 Location: Bedworth, Warwickshire
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Assassin Terrain Adept

Posts: 979 Join date: 2010-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:14 am | |
| TJ
Weight only becomes an issue when things are going correctly, but get stuck in an obscure area in many parts of the world and having this water literally becomes a lifesaver in soaring temperatures, and when another vehicle may pass every few days.
Many have fallen foul of not carrying enough water and suffered dehydration, many have died.
Base water consumption on an average 6 litres per person, per day, a 30 litre capacity is less than 3 days water for a couple travelling alone. |
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andyk Gate Opener


Posts: 31 Join date: 2010-12-30 Age: 46 Location: Dubbo, New South Wales
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:51 am | |
| Hi there, got to agree with Assassin here, we carry 120lts of drinking water in our 110. Its heavy of course but with 3 of us in the Landy and drinking water not being available everywhere our well being is paramount. In a few spots we've ran out of food before water.
We have 40lts in a stainless steel under wing tank with an external tap, 60lts in an internal plastic tank behind our storage drawer and 20lts in a scepter style jerry can which lives in one of the external side lockers.
All of them can be filled quickly using a hose pipe if a tap is close by or slowly using the jerry can if the water source is too far away.
All of the weight is low down, the water is always in the same place and easy to get to.
Its worked for us touring Australia anyway!
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Assassin Terrain Adept

Posts: 979 Join date: 2010-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:53 pm | |
| In some parts of Oz it can be a couple of weeks before another vehicle passes AndyK, so you tend to think more of its importance than many of us in the UK. |
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GirlChild Just got MT's


Posts: 283 Join date: 2012-03-07 Location: Adventuring in Africa
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:56 pm | |
| Aaah - I feel slightly reassured that we opted for a 50l tank! I initially thought it was overkill, but any anymore!
_________________ African GirlChildWebsite: www.kapp2cape.netBlog: www.kapp2cape-blog.netOverland from Nordkapp to Cape AgulhasThe adventure begins in October 2012!Departure: Adventure Overland Show, 7th October 2012 |
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Assassin Terrain Adept

Posts: 979 Join date: 2010-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:17 pm | |
| Just because you have the capacity it dosen't mean you have to use it all, many friends owning motorhomes had similar issues with having what they deemed as excessively large tanks fitted, I simply said only partially fill them with enough water for your journey, then fill them up when you are on site as they all have water these days. |
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iveco4x4 Just got AT's


Posts: 201 Join date: 2012-02-25 Location: Leicestershire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:56 pm | |
| About 150 ltres of water onboard with full tank.
So with that and full diesel tanks i'm carrying best part of half a tonne of liquid
I also have a couple of water jerries as just in case supply
_________________ Rich
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Tom Mc Founder


Posts: 2372 Join date: 2010-12-09 Location: Bedworth, Warwickshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:39 am | |
| | iveco4x4 wrote: | About 150 ltres of water onboard with full tank.
So with that and full diesel tanks i'm carrying best part of half a tonne of liquid
I also have a couple of water jerries as just in case supply |
Blimey, you've got more on board than half of the reservoirs in England! |
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Assassin Terrain Adept

Posts: 979 Join date: 2010-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:56 am | |
| Get the saucepans, bowls, and buckets out while its raining folks and catch it now while you can. |
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iveco4x4 Just got AT's


Posts: 201 Join date: 2012-02-25 Location: Leicestershire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:16 am | |
| | Tom Mc wrote: | | iveco4x4 wrote: | About 150 ltres of water onboard with full tank.
So with that and full diesel tanks i'm carrying best part of half a tonne of liquid
I also have a couple of water jerries as just in case supply |
Blimey, you've got more on board than half of the reservoirs in England! |
Yep - currently negotiating with anglian water to sell them water
Its funny though - not really happy it being in a big tank, from a controlled usage point of view I prefer to carry it in 20 litre lumps so you can see it being used, it just isn't an efficient use of space. In my 101 I had pumped water but drawn from a 20 litre can under the sink so usage rate was easily watched. With this one i will carry a couple of cans as an emergency supply
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Iveco Turbo Daily 4x4 'Thumper' Isuzu TFS69 Pickup 'The bakkie' Ex Owner of Tiggurr The 101
"And that road rolls out like a welcome mat I don't know where it goes but it beats where we're at We always said someday somehow We were gonna get away gonna blow this town" --------- Lonestar
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Assassin Terrain Adept

Posts: 979 Join date: 2010-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:46 pm | |
| Its always advisable to carry more than one container, if one becomed contaminated, burst or damaged you have water to fall back on. Worst ones are freezing of an external tank while an inside one's fine. |
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Tom Mc Founder


Posts: 2372 Join date: 2010-12-09 Location: Bedworth, Warwickshire
 | Subject: Re: Water storage Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:07 pm | |
| Quite, this is a classic case of not putting all your eggs into one basket. The same is true of fuel to a degree, but of course unless you get water ingress, fuel rarely becomes contaminated - and even if it did, it wouldn't affect your health. More tanks the better as opposed to just one or even two big 'uns. |
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